Saturday, April 21, 2007

A Disgusting Taste of 'Prophetic' Ministry

Last November, I wrote about how the term 'prophetic' ministry was misappropriated by those who want to give political speeches in the name of God.

That's what this disturbed and depraved video is:


Many of my commentors rejected my objection that people not called of God to be prophets were claiming to speak prophetically. Well, that's what this piece of trash is: prophetic ministry.

Tomorrow, Whit Johnstone plans on giving a 'prophetic sermon' calling for gun control. If that's prophetic ministry, then so is this video.

Still like the idea?

Hat tip to Gavin Richardson, who is also disgusted by this video.

11 comments:

TN Rambler said...

Hat tip to Josh Tinley who brought this to our attention in the first place.

I commented at Josh's place and at Gavin's. Won't repeat myself here. There is a need for the church to call society to task, but is this the right place? I don't know. I just know that I won't be touching the issue of gun control in my sermon and not because my congregation wouldn't want to hear it.

jim said...

Keep speaking on this man. I wish I had some more words to describe the way my vomit looked after watching this and reading all of the politically charged (illegals, gun control) responses to VT--as if UM's can't come up with a spiritual response.

There is a problem with trying to play Old Testament prophet in America: God covenanted with Israel to make them His chosen people; I don't remember Him doing that with us.

John said...

Exactly, Jim. America is a great nation, but it is mentioned nowhere in the Bible, nor is it under any covenantal promise of God.

rocksalive777 said...

More quality programing brought to you buy: the American Family Association.

Tune in next week for: How to Bring Back the Crusades.

Jonathan said...

John, I also strongly object to this video, but probably for different reasons. I do not take this video as an example of what it means to be 'prophetic.' Rather, I would call this video reactionary. I would say that the problem with this video is that it is NOT in any way prophetic; it merely mirrors certain parts of our (conservative, Constantinian) culture.

John said...

Ah. I see. So when a Christian gives a liberal political speech in the name of God, then it is 'prophetic'. When a Christian gives a conservative political speech in the name of God, it is merely reactionary.

Jonathan said...

Nope, when someone speaks a biblical word, that is prophetic. The measuring rod is not anywhere on the conservative/liberal spectrum. The measuring rod is the Bible, period.

Jonathan said...

By the way, I also think there are plenty of parts of our liberal Constantinian culture, and when these parts are mirrored, that is not being prophetic either (or biblical).

John said...

There's nothing Biblical about a speech advocating gun control delivered from the pulpit.

Jonathan said...

I didn't say there was.

However, it would at least be the right kind of discussion to have.

In other words, arguments over faithful biblical interpretation are more interesting and important than the Enlightenment's argument about the separation of faith and politics.

Let's have arguments over what is biblical and what is not - rather than what is political and what is private.

Anonymous said...

Keeping God out of politics is nuts. Pretty soon everything is political and we can keep God out of it.

And the goverment shall be on his shoulders...